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Lusciious · Jan 08, 2010, 10:26 AM // 10:26

Is it possible to monk in PvE if I lag occasionally ?

Swahnee · Jan 08, 2010, 10:31 AM // 10:31

Yes, it is. If your lag is really a problem, simply run a smiter build (RoJ) and let the H/H do the healing job. However, you can be a healer even with some lag, with no problem in low-end pve, and even in high-end pve with a little luck.

instanceskiller · Jan 08, 2010, 02:31 PM // 14:31

I think it depends on how often you lag and what sort of thing your doing in pve and with what party; A pug or h/h.

If your thinking about the elite areas, DOA, Urgoz, UW etc it might be a bad idea depending on what you mean by occasionally.

If your with a pug (a bad pug) then it might also be a bad idea depending on how you find being raged at...often (from experience).

If your with h/h with good hero setups (maybe sabway or discordway) then it shouldn't be too much of a problem even in hm.

Hope this helps.

the_jos · Jan 08, 2010, 04:45 PM // 16:45

What do you mean by 'occasionally'?
If it happens once in a while you'll be alright.
If you are on constant high ping you might want to consider another role.

I had a problem with my network a while ago, causing a one or two second delay about every minute.
This didn't prevent me from playing PvE monk, I just took the more pro-active role and not the reactive. Not recommended for end-content play in tight situations but for most of the content it's no big problem.

Marzipan Marci · Jan 08, 2010, 05:05 PM // 17:05

Of course it is. Many players suffer from continously lagg ingame, and monking in PvE doesn't require such concentration and reflexes.

Slaphead Monk · Jan 08, 2010, 05:18 PM // 17:18

Monking in pve isnt hard at all, as others said you dont need much attention, and if you do have lag, its easily countered, running a standard HB or UA bar you can heal someone from 3/4 or 2/3 hp in one heal, there arent any spikes in pve really so you dont need to worry about someone suddenly dropping to 1/8th of their health like in pvp.

if you are worried about people dying always have a prot hero or bring some prots yourself and prot people you notice getting hit most.. even in elite areas you will have another prot or healer who will cover red bars when you lag

i myself used to monk a lot with lag before i sorted connection out and i had no problems dealing with it, most pug groups want 2 healers, so as long as its not just you healing then some lag shouldnt matter

_Nihilist_ · Jan 08, 2010, 06:17 PM // 18:17

Unless you are getting constantly disconnected you should have no problems Monking with a bit of lag in PvE as long as you aren't in a party that has no idea what is going on.

Lusciious · Jan 08, 2010, 10:14 PM // 22:14

is 1k ping considered alot ?

the_jos · Jan 09, 2010, 12:04 PM // 12:04

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Originally Posted by Lusciious

is 1k ping considered alot ?

If it's constant 1k ping it's a lot.
I had 1.5-2k ping once about every minute, which is manageable.

For testing you could take any KD or interrupt skill and see if you can somewhat consistenlty interrupt 2 second casting time skills (don't put FC on when you do this with mesmer though).
Practice for a while.
If that works find some foes with 1 second casting time skills and try the same.
If you can do both with not too many misses you should be ok on your monk.
If you can catch most 2 second skills but less than half of the 1 second skills you should pay more attention to the battlefield but you can still play monk.

If you cannot catch at least half of the 2 second skills after a bit of practice I'd say your ping is too high to play any reactive (red bar up or fast prot) monk bar. You might be ok with somewhat decent teams where you can play a pro-active prot build. And it would be difficult to participate in high-end farming teams and such (since you are always 2 seconds too late you might break aggro and such).

maxxfury · Jan 09, 2010, 05:19 PM // 17:19

tips for a laggy monk.

Run a two hybrid backline, two with heals and prots. Even just making sure both have ps(or 1ps and 1sb) and a little red bar ability.

That way the other monk can cover your lag for a few seconds MUCH easier than if you were to lag out on a hbhealer and leave the prot monk with very little red bar, or vice versa, leaving them with no PS! blowing all their energy pumping heals fruitlesly.

a constant ping of upto 1 second can be a pain, but i managable, so long as you dont plan to be infusing, everything else is easy to do so long as you can watch the field and judge were the damage is gonna be coming (which you should do when your good anyway

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The problems really come with disconnects, and havin to start over when it wont let you reconnect....i had that in the old days with a crap line at home..pre reconnect feature. If you keep dropping and having to reconnect then i dont suggest a primary role, eg tanking or healing, something not vital on the midline is best

like a ranger or something

Zahr Dalsk · Jan 10, 2010, 10:09 AM // 10:09

Unless we're talking about actually losing connection for a few seconds, you're fine.

Lusciious · Jan 10, 2010, 02:19 PM // 14:19

thanks for all the help .

it's lag like .. every 10 seconds .. sometimes the lag can last for 1-2 mins

glacialphoenix · Jan 11, 2010, 12:12 PM // 12:12

Playable, I think - but you'll be very, very frustrated.

Even so... 1-2 mins is a lot, especially if it's a screen freeze. I monk on about 500-600 ping, and I know what it's like to go through several 1k ping lags. It's definitely playable in PvE - but as the above posters mention, probably better for you to run hybrid or smite.

MasterSasori · Jan 12, 2010, 02:02 AM // 02:02

Of course it is possible to monk with lag. Perhaps not AWESOME but yes you can monk reasonably well. It takes two things: 1. good pre-protting or foresight and 2. Support rather than main healer.

A good example would be UA monk with certain protting spells such as PS and Aegis. This is of course, assuming you know how to prot well otherwise your team is screwed if the area is dangerous.

So skills such as UA, Heaven's Delight, Divine Healing, Aegis - longer recharge spells would be in your favor.

Remember that this is PvE and not GvG or higher end PvP. You won't be facing any targeted spikes (with a few exceptions and party wide damage) so you don't have to worry too much.

BTW if you lag like every 10 seconds, then any profession is practically unplayable in high end PvE. Consider getting to the root of the problem instead of varying your game play or the only thing that might be suited is SoS rit or something where u can afk.